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KingRayVet's avatar

This one made my stomach turn. I almost threw up. No way would that kid have gotten away with that, no matter who his people were ... if he was Black. They don't spare us like that. Never in a million years. My God, it should not be that easy for the entitled or rich.

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Joe Martin's avatar

Are you kidding? That kid would not have survived the arrest if he was black!

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KingRayVet's avatar

Yep, that’s right. If it even got that far. They be shooting first and asking questions later with us.

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KingRayVet's avatar

I have a famous father and 2 rogue cops beat my ass for something stupid and couldn’t care less who he was. They found out when reporters found them. Then they cooked up lies to get their asses off the hook.

Don’t have to tell ME how they treat us different. 🤬

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Joe Martin's avatar

…so messed up. I am nearly 60 years old and grew up in integrated schools with a family that forgot to teach me bigotry. It is inexcusable.

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KingRayVet's avatar

Listen, not to mention the victims. Those boys will do it again if they don't get punished for this sort of thing. What about THEM (girls or boys)????

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Paige's avatar

My cousin’s boyfriend at the time rapped her son. He got 8 days in jail!!! Had great lawyers and that’s all the time he served ! Her son had to go live with his grandmother and my F ing cousin married him later. He deserved to have his thing cut off. Guess by now you can see I don’t talk to anyone from that side of the family!

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Grateful4's avatar

That poor child! I sure hope the grandmother has stood up for him, has him in counseling, and disowned her daughter for how deeply disturbed she has got to be - how could anyone that was of sound mind marry a man who raped her son? Beyond sick!!!

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KingRayVet's avatar

Unfortunately, it happens way more than it's reported. Especially with boys. They're far more shamed to take it to the authorities than girls and that's not saying much since they shame girls, too.

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KingRayVet's avatar

Well, it's all insane. Those boys/men will be free and unleashed onto kids everywhere. Just fucking crazy!!!

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Paige's avatar

Yes it is. Just have to love our justice system.

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KingRayVet's avatar

Boooooooooooooo 👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿😁

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Holly Campana's avatar

Apparently, they’re just gonna be unleashed to fuck anything they want, including animals, which I’m sure they do. You know the bestiality it’s a great world we live in by the way where is God?

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Paige's avatar

Not sure where God is but I wish he’d wipe those people off the face of the earth.

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KingRayVet's avatar

I doubt God is part of their daily regiment. Not after doing that for the kid and against his victims/survivors. Other animals aren't a part of that law.

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Holly Campana's avatar

Oh yes, I know King Ray vet. Animals aren’t a part of any law, which is very unfortunate to say the minimum.

My point is where is God look at the whole fucking world it’s been going on forever. I think it’s just been getting worse and worse over the last hundred years maybe I mean cause I’m not 100 years old but you know it exponentially gets worse because we’re in you know higher tech we were not in the 1800s 19 you know I’m saying

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KingRayVet's avatar

Yes, it's been going on for a long time. I'm no spring chicken. I'm on the down slope of life. I know people can be freaky and a lot of other things. As long as I'm doing what I'm supposed to be, I tend not to judge what others are doing. It can drive you crazy. The law should protect against raping humans. That's all I know. Problem is, the same people who are guilty of doing that are the ones in charge of who gets away with it and who doesn't. Dickheads abound and I'm sure God isn't pleased. He did give us free will, though. You either align yours with him or you don't. Who knows what price people pay for crimes against humanity when the rules are fucking bent?

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Assemblywoman Debra Mazzarelli's avatar

We experience so many injustices as women, by men and institutions established by men-one would think the outrage and punishment for this YOUNG OFFENDER would be swift and immediate. Instead there it is again…a broken system with men and women more concerned about themselves and “reputations” than seeking justice for the female victim. How can we ever expect equality under the law, when women join the “Rust” instead of showing unity of force against this oppressive system. The victim is deprived of any justice! There must be a reckoning!

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Kelley Smoot's avatar

As a undergraduate honors student who was raped by her professor after being recruited & put on the class by the “Ghislaine Maxwell” of academic geology (who went onto to become Dean of the Jackson School of Geosciences at UT-Austin) I immediately have to remind everyone to look at rape prosecution statistics: ONLY 2% of rapists ever enter into any part of the justice system. 2%!! Imagine if murders or robberies were only investigated & prosecuted at a rate of 2% - we’d have tons more murders and robberies and society would be incredibly violent. Well, guess what? With only a 2% chance of being caught, much less ever punished, why not commit the crime? Young men are told from early life they are entitled to women and if women don’t submit, the men are entitled to just rape them, or do whatever they like. When people know they will not be punished, it’s permission to commit the crime.

UNLESS AND UNTIL society decides to prosecute sexual assault and rape as the CRIMES they are, men will never feel any compulsion to not rape women, and when they do rape women, the men will get away with it. After all, society has given them permission by failing to prosecute sexual assault and rape. It’s just that simple. You want less rapes and sexual assaults? Start punishing people when they commit sex crimes.

PS: The University of Texas at Austin still refuses to correct my falsified transcript (having removed the class where I was raped from my transcript) and I was not allowed to go to graduate school because my honors thesis advisor refused to provide any recommendation letters after I was raped. She also withheld publication of my senior thesis, keeping it out of the UT Library System, as well as keeping my attendance out of any official records that would have recorded my attendance on the field course she had induced me to pay for and attend, where her former mentor raped me.

Make no mistake - universities covering up rapes of their (female) students by anyone - another student, professors, administrators, coaches, you name it — has been going on for DECADES. This is nothing new. Universities have always thrown women students “under the bus” - they literally do not care about their female students. And it continues because no one believes women; everyone believes men, with the end result that rape and sexual assault — which are VIOLENT CRIMES committed by seriously deranged people - continue, since the men that run the system refuse to prosecute sexual assault and rape.

https://rainn.org/get-informed/facts-statistics-the-scope-of-the-problem/

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Assemblywoman Debra Mazzarelli's avatar

That is the key…no one believes the women…not even other women! Look at Nancy Mace,and what she did today! First we have to believe in each other and unite and males who listen should join us. In the meantime, we cannot afford to let the regime continue to reverse our rights and our legitimacy in a society devoid of trust and honor and justice!

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Holly Campana's avatar

It really wasn’t a female Victim. It was her son. She victimized her son.

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Yolanda D.'s avatar

What a somber story… Thanks, Ethan, for bringing it to our attention! 😟

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Christina Gurchinoff's avatar

Ethan - have you heard mumbling about healthcare by Trump regime? I knew it would come up. It’s perfect timing right? The government shutdown couldn’t be a more perfect time for them to come up with a plan for healthcare for all - remember my documents I saw a year ago? All I can say is I wish I was wrong.

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Tighe Barry's avatar

Absolutely! If the Dem Party was real “opposition” this is the perfect moment. Ah, just a dream some of us have.

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Joe Martin's avatar

Democrat party...in Oklahoma? Do they exist?

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Amber R's avatar

Im from Oklahoma and this makes me sick. Im very glad this is getting national attention. Thank you for putting a spotlight on this.

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Joe Martin's avatar

This is truly a very Trump state. Even no punishment for adjudicated sexual predators here either! MAGA!

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Christina Gurchinoff's avatar

I just saw a message flash across my screen and I’m not sure who it was meant for but it said “Not in CO Liar!” I’ve only been on 3 threads if it was even meant for me idk. But you know Liar is kind of strong and probably has more to do with “Contempt prior to investigation” which is a very MAGA like practice. They don’t even realize their ignorance and they don’t have any data or facts and are very quick to lash out at those of us who gather receipts and have data or documents to back up our words.

It can really be exhausting and I don’t feel the need to argue my point if I’ve already supplied the back up.

I thank you for your knowledge and truth telling.

Have hope! 🤜🏽🤛🏻

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KingRayVet's avatar

Oh, it's even worse than imaginable. There's a big push in the groyper society of maggots to normalize rape culture. Fucking insane. Those damn boys don't have a clue, and because they don't, they think taking someone by force is acceptable. Who the fuck raised those kids? SMFH 🙄

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Chris Fackrell's avatar

This piece of writing was very well executed. Seems like there are a few locations in the states where protection of those inside the tent, outweigh common sense decency and the law. Those loop-holes need to be stitched up.

Thank you for bringing this to light.

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Ridii's avatar

This is deeply disturbing and unfair. It's a horrible world we live in. I REALLY HOPE SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENS TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILY THIS IS DISGUSTING

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Holly Campana's avatar

I have a friend who says that anytime his wife prays for somebody they usually have something bad happened to them. He’s a real funny guy. He’s a great guy and is you’re supposed to pray for the people. You know that we need the prayers we all need prayers but she there’s some specialgift that happens when she prays for people. I think I’m gonna have to call her 🆙

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Lew A (Lincoln) Welge's avatar

This is Oklahoma "news" which should be of interest to anyone who desires #SocialJustice and a curtailment of the criminally nepotistic "good old boy" system in our country's even western & southern states; and, by extension: the world.

LewALincolnWelge.com

#CREATORS (Counselor Reenactor Educator Activist Truther Organizer Reader Socializer).

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KingRayVet's avatar

It's only being reported about Oklahoma, but trust and believe it's all over this country. They're not the only ones getting away with this bullshit.

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Vivien Beere's avatar

Thanks for your highlighting of this awful story. That the young man served no time and will not have to register as a sex offender is very disturbing; not only was justice avoided but, it’s unlikely he will change. He probably has no motivation to change thus counselling will he useless. Next time he will be nineteen, unfortunately another woman, or women will be assaulted and may be murdered.

The judge should be disbarred imo.

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Grateful4's avatar

Totally agree!!!

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pamela's avatar

This is fucking sick. I hope karma catches up with all of them.

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Laura T RN BSN's avatar

I was at a funeral and one of the daughters works for a Senator and is a single mom. She is expected to keep working but unpaid due to shutdown

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Holly Campana's avatar

💨

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Patrick Hertel's avatar

If you're ever in Oklahoma

You better move around at night'

Cause they don't like no transportation

Slipping by in-and-out of sight

And they don't care about Dallas, Texas

And they don't care about Wichita

If you're ever in Oklahoma

You better move around the law - J.J.Cale

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Holly Campana's avatar

I will never and never have had plans to go anywhere near Oklahoma or any of those states around it Ohio is bad enough

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Cathi Connelly's avatar

Horrific. So the d of these privileged punks. Hope he dies from a long painful illness

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Nola Krosch's avatar

He got a “get out of jail free” card, for sure. But what happens next time, when he’s no longer a youth? Because I guarantee you there will be a next time. There always is with violent people who do not get any significant consequences for their actions.

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Grateful4's avatar

I’m curious what age constitutes a “youthful offender”? Seems to me once you turn 18 you should be considered an ADULT - if you’re old enough to join the service, to go to war, sign contracts, etc? Then you’re no longer a “youth”…. Just my opinion

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Holly Campana's avatar

My son was just entering fourth grade at a parent participation school taking a village. You know school and teacher children with teachers and parents have rotations in the various rooms various topics that they covered that were taught as like little extra things so anyway to get to the heart of this topic, there was a little girl in the classroom who was masturbating constantly and there’s a teacher there there’s an assistant, and there’s at least one or two other parents in the room every freaking day And my son was sitting next to her and he still didn’t totally know what was going on. he was reading these books trying to think what the name was doesn’t matter but he the kid was learning how to do things like spy. It’s a really well known book series anyway so he took his camera Cut a hole in his backpack and positioned it under his chair yeah and they had the police come out how old was my son you barely 4th grader and I thought well how ridiculous is that he could’ve gotten a record for just doing that we’re in California so anyway we had an attorney there, but it was unbeknownst to me that it even happened. We just got called in so you know we’re talking about a man who fucked the child in the ass that was a boy who is a child who’s 18 and then we’re looking at a fourth grader who didn’t know what this little girl was doing and he just trying to figure it outso just thought I’d share that little tidbit

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AussieRee's avatar

I was hoping you’d say the fact she was continually masturbating should have given off a red flag vibe into potential sex abuse, and his spy camera footage (after your son was made aware that what he did was wrong) inadvertently and eventually helped uncover a pedophile who - was brought to justice.

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Holly Campana's avatar

That’s actually a really odd thing to say the parental part of this should’ve been speaking with her daughter about the right places to do very private things.

That’s actually a really odd thing to say ; the/ her parental part of this should’ve been speaking with their daughter about the right places to do very private things but they obviously couldn’t face anything or be honest with their own child gently honest, giving her a parameters and some understanding of what she was even doing

NOT in a classroom and there were plenty of qualified PARENTS in said classroom even including the teacher!

As I was thinking about this right after I got your spin on things, it was a third grade class so I don’t remember how old my son is 23 now so I should not have said anything at all now I wish I had not said shit.

as I was thinking about this right after I got your spin on things, it was a third grade class so I don’t remember how old my son is 23 now so I should not have said anything at all now I wish I had not said shit.

The books he was reading were spy books for a kid and that’s where he got the idea and if the parents in the teacher had been paying attention to what the little girl is doing, which would be very hard to miss, Which would’ve been talked to the teacher and talked to the principal of the school it wasn’t your average public school. It was a charter school, and the parents were heavily involved. It was a prerequisite and an ongoing commitment.

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Nola Krosch's avatar

For a child that age to be masturbating makes me suspicious she was being sexually abused—possibly even by a parent. Sad they would go after your son instead of asking the little girl to talk to a counselor. But then again, mandatory reporting laws were probably laxer then.

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Holly Campana's avatar

Well, I just left a lengthy script here and it won’t post but now it’s allowing me to post this

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Holly Campana's avatar

WhHaAtTt

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Nola Krosch's avatar

I thought so too, but scientific research is now showing that our brains are not fully formed/our thought processes do not regularly consider the longterm consequences until we reach the age of 26. OTOH, Oklahoma is a pretty red state, so why would they give judges that much leeway?

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KingRayVet's avatar

It's not, but they're still young MEN!! That study has been around forever. Doesn't mean a hill of beans, and when you're Black, you don't get away with that as a "youth". Ummmmmmm...

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